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Crossword Confidential: SUNDAY, April 5, 2009 (syndicated crossword) — Will NedigerOrangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12433254398377357737noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-25952314091943859082009-04-05T18:16:00.000-07:002009-04-05T18:16:00.000-07:00what was that all about??????what was that all about??????chefbeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195945085405126511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-19639082159060209752009-04-05T17:35:00.000-07:002009-04-05T17:35:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.xyzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08287781952915413013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-43558165340697737552009-04-05T16:10:00.000-07:002009-04-05T16:10:00.000-07:00I'm going uncensored here, but I have to say somet...I'm going uncensored here, but I have to say something: The TMS puzzle was objectively Terrible, filled with lots of crap words and Roman numerals (sometimes three and four in a single puzzle!?!) and other junk that would get your puzzle rejected from most puzzle outlets. And it wasn't always easy (precisely because of the often ridiculous, capriciously arcane fill and bad design). I tried to do one once, and then went to CC's blog and told them all how bad I felt for them, and that a better puzzle world was out there. Not tougher or more "elite" - just plain better. Smoother. More thoughtfully designed. Etc.<BR/><BR/>Ex TMS'ers should count themselves lucky. In time, they will see what I mean. Nobody likes change, but the LAT puzzle is superior in Every Way to the old TMS puzzle. This goes for expert and novice solvers alike. No one who solved both puzzles (LAT and TMS) would disagree with me. Literally, no one.<BR/><BR/>Read other solvers' experiences solving a TMS puzzle here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://rexwordpuzzle.blogspot.com/2008/05/weekly-wrap-up-may-5-18-super-sized.html" REL="nofollow">Rex, May 19 2008</A><BR/><BR/>I await your disagreement.<BR/><BR/>Respectfully, RPRex Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16145707733877505087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-53179442101037699462009-04-05T15:17:00.000-07:002009-04-05T15:17:00.000-07:00I've been reading Rex's blog for quite awh...I've been reading Rex's blog for quite awhile - but I am out in syndicated land. I too am happy to find this blog - and be a current participant! I love the teamwork here & the different points of view.<BR/><BR/>My only question about today's puzzle is 45D 'Hush Money Payer' - Briber doesn't sound right. Seems to me the one who pays isn't the one who's committing the bribe.LeePnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-49494411147786908592009-04-05T14:47:00.000-07:002009-04-05T14:47:00.000-07:00To redanman and embien - I still screw up on Frida...To redanman and embien - I still screw up on Fridays and Saturdays in the NYT, and occasionally on the LAT Saturday. It just doesn't matter a bit.<BR/><BR/>Yes there is some (really not a lot) of solving snobism on these blogs, ignore it as I do.<BR/><BR/>Join the community and enjoy our company. It's a pleasant place to be.<BR/><BR/>Nice puzzles at both the NYT and LAT today. No strained anything.<BR/><BR/>Best to the new bloggers and old hats.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Daveimsdavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12966770844825169981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-74466486206335832032009-04-05T13:40:00.000-07:002009-04-05T13:40:00.000-07:00As another non-elite solver, I feel @the redanman'...As another non-elite solver, I feel <B>@the redanman</B>'s pain. Today's puzzle took me some 33 minutes, but I kept plugging away (and grinning and laughing when another theme answer became evident).<BR/><BR/>Over at the other blog, <A HREF="http://crosswordcorner.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Star Tribune Crossword Corner</A>, I'm reading that many of those who formerly did Wayne Williams' TMS puzzle, which is no longer being syndicated, are up in arms and/or dispirited with the LA Times that now appears in their daily paper, as it's too tough. <BR/><BR/>My advice to them was to keep solving, keep solving. Many spent years learning how to do the TMS puzzle. This puzzle is different, and it may take some time to get into the swing of things.embienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01991001167394653649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-92073382863998333652009-04-05T12:35:00.000-07:002009-04-05T12:35:00.000-07:00Jane - glad you can join blog discussion of a puzz...Jane - glad you can join blog discussion of a puzzle in "real time" now - makes a big difference, probably. Thanks for writing in. Vancouver is of the Top Ten cities that read my NYT blog. I don't know if that surprises anyone. Surprised me a little.<BR/><BR/>RPRex Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16145707733877505087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-79675436099159644882009-04-05T12:15:00.000-07:002009-04-05T12:15:00.000-07:00Thanks Rex. Now I know the mnemonic and how to spe...Thanks Rex. Now I know the mnemonic and how to spell itchefbeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195945085405126511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-77340764324739912682009-04-05T11:47:00.000-07:002009-04-05T11:47:00.000-07:00I could never remember a mnemonic for the colors b...I could never remember a mnemonic for the colors but the word they formed was so unusual that I never forgot it. VIBGYOR.Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-69482039762209617462009-04-05T11:08:00.000-07:002009-04-05T11:08:00.000-07:00Rex, Orange and PuzzleGirl - Thank you for this bl...Rex, Orange and PuzzleGirl - Thank you for this blog! Where do you find the time? Our paper (Vancouver Province) recently switched from the TMS puzzle to LAT and who better to break it down than my favourite NYT bloggers? Bonus: it's still fresh, not six weeks or even one week behind. Oh, joy!<BR/><BR/>@the redanman - I understand where you're coming from, but also see why Rex and others might take offense. Some of the NYT posters may be 'elite', but I don't find them condescending. Funny, sarcastic, maybe - but not mean-spirited. You can learn a lot from them. Years ago I bought a crossword dictionary and kept tons of notes on the back pages. It became so worn out it had to be held together with a rubber band. Haven't opened it in years, but who would care if I did? As for Google, it's an opportunity to learn something new, as opposed to just plugging in the correct letter based on the crosses. My personal challenge is to use it as infrequently as possible. Have a great Sunday, everyone.<BR/>Cheers, JaneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-37475614707406028992009-04-05T10:07:00.000-07:002009-04-05T10:07:00.000-07:00@redanman, What Greene said. Putting down or dismi...@redanman, <BR/><BR/>What Greene said. Putting down or dismissing expert solvers just because they see puzzles differently than you do will get you nowhere. If you ever see an elite solver put down or deride a novice, you let me know. All I see at every crossword blog I've ever been to is a generally warm and generous (if occasionally cantankerous and fussy) community of solvers who enjoy discussing puzzles. If you disagree with the majority about a puzzle's quality, just say so; no need to put down those who disagree or write their opinions off prejudicially. (the lang. of your post is dripping with derision for speed solvers - what's the point of that?)<BR/><BR/>Also, I don't think a fast solver would understand what you mean by "rote" - nothing is "rote." As with any activity, the more you do it, the more familiar you get with its basic terms and the better you get at anticipating possible twists and turns and tricks. Memorizing word lists doesn't help much, and even if you did, common words (e.g. OLIO) get obscured by hard clues sometimes, making "rote" learning virtually useless. Hundreds if not thousands of people have written me claiming that constant solving and semi-constant blog-reading have improved their skill level and solving enjoyment. I'm sorry you are not among those people. I hope eventually you will be.<BR/><BR/>And Google to your heart's content. Who cares? It is true that you'll get better the more patient you are and the more you resist looking stuff up, but there are only so many hours in the day, and better to know something than not know it, in the end, probably.<BR/><BR/>@chefbea, Mnemonic in question is ROY G. BIV.<BR/><BR/>RPRex Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16145707733877505087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-63007702731614195132009-04-05T09:26:00.000-07:002009-04-05T09:26:00.000-07:00At breakfast this morning my friend said she was g...At breakfast this morning my friend said she was going home to make rainbow colored jello Easter eggs. I asked what colors and she tried to remember. I said that there is a neumonic (sp) for that and she didnt know what I was talking about. Of course I couldn't remember the order of the colors. What is the neumonic??chefbeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195945085405126511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-39157258522405623092009-04-05T09:12:00.000-07:002009-04-05T09:12:00.000-07:00I don't understand all the ridicule and cheating i...I don't understand all the ridicule and cheating insinuations against somebody who googles. I have learned countless facts while looking up something else. I may not be well read enough to know some remote quote from some unknown to me poet, so why not look it up! As Will said, so I've heard, its my puzzle so enjoy. GolfballmanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-18306090114513856092009-04-05T09:06:00.000-07:002009-04-05T09:06:00.000-07:00@redanman: I feel your pain, brother. Like you, ...@redanman: I feel your pain, brother. Like you, I am an extremely average solver who plods through late week puzzles with slow solving times and marvels at the skill of the elite solvers.<BR/><BR/>I've been doing the NYT puzzle on a daily basis for a little under a year (and the LAT sporadically until recent weeks) and guess what I've learned? Much of crosswording is an acquired skill and like most any acquired skill one hones one's ability through repetition. Well, repetition and a good daily dose of Rex and Orange. I cannot tell you how much I have improved as a solver in just one year by persistence, repetition, and regularly reading the blogs. I am definitely not an elite solver, but I'll wager that many of them would give you the same advice.<BR/><BR/>In addition to persistence, crosswording also requires a broad range of general knowledge and there is simply no substitute for being an active part of the culture and having a nose for trivia. You have to read a newspaper, go to the movies, watch television (including sports), listen to music, and read books. Now I don't do all these things, but I've found that reading a newspaper is an enormous help, particularly if it has a good Arts and Leisure section.<BR/><BR/>If you are looking for a tool that will help you leap the hurdle from Thursday solving to weekend solving, I high recommend Amy Reynaldo's book "How to Conquer the New York Times Crossword Puzzle." There is some excellent help in there, especially about learning crosswordese and tricks that constructors use to throw you off.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, if you want to get good at solving Friday and Saturday puzzles, then just keep doing Friday and Saturday puzzles. And forget about speed solving. You're never going to solve a Saturday puzzle in 5 minutes and neither am I. Our brains are just not wired that way. I think people who can do that, and God bless them, have genetic gifts that I lack, so what of it? I'll bet I can play piano better than most of them though.<BR/><BR/>So keep pluggin' along. I think your experience is a very common one. You will get better with time, just don't give up.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again to Rex, Orange, and Puzzle Girl for this new blog which I look upon as a kind of Crossword 101. I learn something new everyday here and I'm grateful for the opportunity to learn all the nuts and bolts. You guys could actually teach this as a course.Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10412634072650228847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-81951128319969088922009-04-05T08:46:00.000-07:002009-04-05T08:46:00.000-07:00I remember having a spirited argument with an Engl...I remember having a spirited argument with an English professor once over "The Rape of the Lock." He kept arguing that cutting off someone's hair can't really be compared to rape and I, in my outrage, just kept repeating "He <I>cut off</I> her <I>hair</I>!!!" It's possible I had had a few drinks before that class. (HAha, get it? spirited?)<BR/><BR/>@chefbea: Sacha Baron Cohn is the guy who played Borat. One of his other characters is "Ali G."<BR/><BR/>@redanman: I'd love to respond to your comment, but I have to be honest, I'm not really sure what you are suggesting.PuzzleGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06835502266781516627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-80519529229827357062009-04-05T08:30:00.000-07:002009-04-05T08:30:00.000-07:00Yes.. this is the puzzle I did last sunday. It is...Yes.. this is the puzzle I did last sunday. It is in the Greenwich Time and Stamford advocate. So I have to wait a week to chime in.<BR/><BR/>A fun puzzle. Can someone explain Sacha Baron Cohn= alig ???chefbeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195945085405126511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-12470318406138614432009-04-05T08:08:00.000-07:002009-04-05T08:08:00.000-07:00@ crosscan -- re "I had a pet rock, and my mother ...@ crosscan -- re "I had a pet rock, and my mother knitted it a sweater." Don't go away! It could have died and been buried in a passé stilletto shoebox with full honors... Or donated to the Smithsonian?<BR/><BR/>Did anyone else miss the H in OOLALA?ArtLvrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03869528391374878601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-47633136882891010442009-04-05T07:47:00.000-07:002009-04-05T07:47:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.xyzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08287781952915413013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-21192336765573940392009-04-05T07:22:00.000-07:002009-04-05T07:22:00.000-07:00sweet puzzle. nice theme, super-smooth fill, and s...sweet puzzle. nice theme, super-smooth fill, and some very modern clues. it was on the easy side, but i'm getting used to that.Joonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07825085755390339668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-17791886508571813712009-04-05T06:13:00.000-07:002009-04-05T06:13:00.000-07:00I had a pet rock, and my mother knitted it a sweat...I had a pet rock, and my mother knitted it a sweater. <BR/><BR/>Hmm. This could be my last comment ever because where can I go after that?Jeffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01699404861773455504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-3348902277916604832009-04-05T05:31:00.000-07:002009-04-05T05:31:00.000-07:00Liked clue on DVD RENTAL. Also liked the freshness...Liked clue on DVD RENTAL. Also liked the freshness of POKE and AHNOLD. Very slow start for me in the NW, due mainly to having HORNS for HONKS at 1A, which resulted in much dumb staring on my part.<BR/><BR/>rpRex Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16145707733877505087noreply@blogger.com