tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post1593676232120905008..comments2024-01-25T10:14:06.567-08:00Comments on L.A. Crossword Confidential: 05.17 TueOrangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12433254398377357737noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-15624261926034210382011-05-18T01:18:45.972-07:002011-05-18T01:18:45.972-07:00I think GORP is going to be my new substitute cuss...I think GORP is going to be my new substitute cuss word.<br />Ex. "What the gorp is "gorp"?! Stupid gorpin' word..."Conradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12507039543196826597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-15908937309693567832011-05-17T20:37:30.873-07:002011-05-17T20:37:30.873-07:00Slammed in short and stocky @ 20A, ( hugh fan) got...Slammed in short and stocky @ 20A, ( hugh fan) got to 30A and thought, a theme on "Georges?" Ha! Not into sports, but what about philly-phillie? Not sure if thats what you meant. I have seen gorp a few times in cws. The lessons on dicta were appreciated. May I say welcome back sfingi! Thanks again P.G. you are always spot ontutunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-14959995849814369862011-05-17T16:50:18.254-07:002011-05-17T16:50:18.254-07:00Interesting to find out about "ROCKIE" a...Interesting to find out about "ROCKIE" although ROCKY makes much more sense to me.<br /><br />Glad someone remembered what "GORP" stood for, its been a long time since Kindergarten when we had it for a snack. <br /><br />Puzzle wasn't an epic fail--better than last Friday's.Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15940563034797865033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-70651574275220738942011-05-17T14:59:56.590-07:002011-05-17T14:59:56.590-07:00@JaxinLA - Thanks for that little precis on court ...@JaxinLA - Thanks for that little precis on court dicta vs. ruling.brainylagirlhttp://youwontfall.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-11164433421280707522011-05-17T14:22:15.137-07:002011-05-17T14:22:15.137-07:00Along with the (ice) SKATE --> ROLLER DERBY and...Along with the (ice) SKATE --> ROLLER DERBY and the weak-rhyme (see what I did there), my nit to pick came with the very first clue. EXACT and precise are not synonomous. They each refer to a particular phenomenon. It's not redundate, for instance, to say that a person shooting a bow & arrow does so with exactidude and precision. One refers to the ability to hit a mark (exact), the other to repeatedly hitting the same area or point (precise).brainylagirlhttp://youwontfall.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-69899324636332031642011-05-17T14:08:37.249-07:002011-05-17T14:08:37.249-07:00Twist your knickers any time you want, PG. I agree...Twist your knickers any time you want, PG. I agree with you. <br /><br />SandyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-38573041050667028222011-05-17T13:30:11.205-07:002011-05-17T13:30:11.205-07:00In my part of NY, they all rhyme. But, in VT, HOCK...In my part of NY, they all rhyme. But, in VT, HOCKEY is pronounced hawky.Sfingihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06903616949048940858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-83999513556691737702011-05-17T13:16:58.726-07:002011-05-17T13:16:58.726-07:00Gorp? Really? Whatever. L8r.Gorp? Really? Whatever. L8r.xxpossum@html.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-44962601061166455932011-05-17T13:15:38.897-07:002011-05-17T13:15:38.897-07:00Agree with having a misfire on the theme. I actual...Agree with having a misfire on the theme. I actually remembered the pronunciation of Pataki from the Letterman show. Back then, he often made light of the names of various political figures (like Butrous Butrous Gali).<br /><br />Was annoyed at the COLORADO ROCKIE, like Steve, until I googled up the singular of Rockies and found people saying that the Rockies themselves consider the correct singular spelling to be "Rockie." Googled "Rockie starter" and got 33 legitimate hits. Googled "Rocky starter" and got 3 legitimate hits (after taking out martyr and daihatsu from the results. Apparently, just like Steve says, the writers often just avoid the necessity of using the singular of Rockies. Easy enough to do.<br /><br />Had no clue on GORP or GAMA, making the north central my last area to fill and didn't like DICTA<br /><br />But I like ERIOCA (always liked that word) and CELERY in the puzzle.<br /><br />Overall, an okay puzzle with a misfire on the theme.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05829674808463257958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-64229188620257207132011-05-17T12:49:39.532-07:002011-05-17T12:49:39.532-07:00I knew GORP instantly, but unlike Anon @12:17 PM, ...I knew GORP instantly, but unlike Anon @12:17 PM, I think of it as Granola, Oats, Raisins, and Peanuts. I do recognize the redundancy here (oats are an ingredient in granola), but that's how I learned it. The internet supports both uses. I still some times make my own trail mix, but have upgraded the ingredients to include almonds and other nuts, dried cranberries, M&Ms or Reese's Pieces, and cereals with larger bits than typical granola. The sad part is that I eat it on the road behind the wheel instead of on the trail. I share with my bicycling son.CoffeeLvrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16473192190412844538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-71560870083399243972011-05-17T12:17:49.430-07:002011-05-17T12:17:49.430-07:00@SJKO = GORP is "Good Old Raisins & Peanu...@SJKO = GORP is "Good Old Raisins & Peanuts", the original trail mix. You would never find it as such in a supermarket, you just buy raisins and peanuts & dump them in a bag. They mix themselves on the trail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-33934307059557513472011-05-17T12:11:23.614-07:002011-05-17T12:11:23.614-07:00@Anonymous 10:54 - wow, that's a good one. I&#...@Anonymous 10:54 - wow, that's a good one. I'm going to invoke the "sheep/sheep" rule here and say that he's a Sox.<br /><br />We need a sportswriter from the Boston Globe to tell us for sure.<br /><br />You'd say that The Babe retired as a Yankee, but would you say that he started his career as a Sock? A Sox? <br /><br />I'm sure you'd have the copy editor rewriting the sentence completely to avoid the issue "Former Sox pitcher Babe Ruth retired today as the greatest Yankee power hitter of all time"<br /><br />Issue avoidance can be tempting :)Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00485564817818402947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-9171051902930009872011-05-17T11:37:20.434-07:002011-05-17T11:37:20.434-07:00Dicta is indeed a formal ruling. A subtype is jud...Dicta is indeed a formal ruling. A subtype is judicial dicta which is an opinion, etc... by a court that is not essential to its decision. Most practicing lawyers are familar with JAXINLA's interpretation, but according to Black's Law Dictionary 9th Edition, the puzzle clue appears to be valid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-23698034699863500922011-05-17T11:03:16.061-07:002011-05-17T11:03:16.061-07:00In United States legal terminology, a dictum (plur...In United States legal terminology, a dictum (plural dicta) is a statement of opinion or belief considered authoritative though not binding, because of the authority of the person making it.<br /><br />There are multiple subtypes of dicta, although due to their overlapping nature, legal practitioners in the U.S. colloquially use dicta to refer to any statement by a court that extends beyond the issue before the court. Dicta in this sense are not binding under the principle of stare decisis, but tend to have a strong persuasive effect, either by being in an authoritative decision, stated by an authoritative judge, or both.Marvin Belli "King of Torts"noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-48772268580768450862011-05-17T10:58:18.936-07:002011-05-17T10:58:18.936-07:00The pronunciation is the same as Helga Pataki from...The pronunciation is the same as Helga Pataki from "Hey Arnold"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-83406946337821377432011-05-17T10:54:11.591-07:002011-05-17T10:54:11.591-07:00Steve, re: is a member of the Rockies a Rocky....i...Steve, re: is a member of the Rockies a Rocky....is a member of the Red Sox a Red Sock?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-57242388736113398632011-05-17T10:53:24.507-07:002011-05-17T10:53:24.507-07:00@JaxInLA is totally correct. In fact, when a lawye...@JaxInLA is totally correct. In fact, when a lawyer has based part of her argument in a case on language from a prior opinion that is not part of the "holding" (the "ruling") in that prior opinion, the opinion of the court in the case the lawyer argued will often include the most scathing phrase about that lawyers argument the court could possibly make, saying that the lawyer's argument is totally unfounded because she relied on "mere DICTA" from the prior opinion. Mere DICTA is completely irrelevant to a "formal ruling" in the prior case.Nighthawkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11898505137434147165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-61684517266158245052011-05-17T10:13:02.936-07:002011-05-17T10:13:02.936-07:00Walkie talkie wouldn't have worked because the...Walkie talkie wouldn't have worked because they wanted the rhyming answers to all have the endings spelled differently (-cky; -ki; -ckey; -ckie)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-71595956318739102042011-05-17T10:03:11.916-07:002011-05-17T10:03:11.916-07:00I have a gripe with 17A, "formal rulings.&quo...I have a gripe with 17A, "formal rulings." The answer, DICTA, is wrong. When a judge writes a ruling (also called an opinion), part of it says what the outcome of the case is, and why. Part of it might go deeper into the history of that part of law, or talk about implications for other kinds of cases, or other stuff that is related but not directly on point or part of the formal ruling. THAT stuff is DICTA. In fact, when a lawyer wants to ignore part of an opinion, s/he will characterize it as DICTA. The clue is just wrong. <br /><br />As for the rhyme, well, it gave occasion for PG's entertaining rant and that funny clip, so I count it as successful. I don't know why I find it amusing to have LEBANON mirror PRUSSIA, But there's some nice fill. Fine for me for a Tuesday.JaxInL.A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13792405579998093081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-85532265566268405122011-05-17T09:40:13.852-07:002011-05-17T09:40:13.852-07:00Pataki rhymes in this section of California, nothi...Pataki rhymes in this section of California, nothing else really to say about the puzzle. It did go by remarkably fast. My only thought was RONDO originally clued as Boston Celtic guard.*David*noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-25514973423595868392011-05-17T09:22:16.654-07:002011-05-17T09:22:16.654-07:00I never ever thought the theme was about rhyming, ...I never ever thought the theme was about rhyming, rather, all of the different ways to spell the "key" sound at the end of a word. I non-anonymously agree with the @anonymous crowd.<br /><br />Puzzle itself was OK, nothing too sparkly or too drab.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14900988170432327664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-50555816718613945372011-05-17T09:10:15.181-07:002011-05-17T09:10:15.181-07:00I've only seen PATAKI written and I did think ...I've only seen PATAKI written and I did think it rhymed with HOCKEY; no idea he pronounced it with the ACK sound! Huh. The things you learn. I sure never saw him on Letterman, because @VirginiaC is not alone.Margaretnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-77413418714589651852011-05-17T08:56:39.605-07:002011-05-17T08:56:39.605-07:00I don't rhyme Pataki with the others, but they...I don't rhyme Pataki with the others, but they did provide three different spellings of the -oky sound. Four if you do rhyme Pataki with the others.<br /><br />-ocky<br />-ockey<br />-ockie<br />-aki<br /><br />OK, my nit for the day. 11-D. ORACLE and prophet are synonyms. The specific ORACLE/Prophet at the temple of Apollo at Delphi was the Pythoness.<br /><br />To make it worse, "prophet" is derived from the Greek while ORACLE is derived from the Latin. So at Delphi they would have referred to the Pythoness as "prophetikos" not "oraculum" (or whatever the correct declension and gender of those words are).<br /><br />That said, the "Oracle of Delphi" is such a common term it was no problem at all to get.Tuttlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-19887301771005645572011-05-17T08:53:36.372-07:002011-05-17T08:53:36.372-07:00Yes, they all end with "key", but when 3...Yes, they all end with "key", but when 3 rhyme, the 4th should rhyme too. Bad puzzle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8626052240584383873.post-74277883671398077212011-05-17T08:52:26.364-07:002011-05-17T08:52:26.364-07:00I always pronunc Pataki as potocky, not potacky so...I always pronunc Pataki as potocky, not potacky so it rhymed for me. The ones I didn't like were "Gorp" which I hqave never noticed on the grocery shelf and would not buy it if I did. To me, "gorp" sounds like an onomatopeic word for regugitating. "Dicta" is something I have never seen or heard being used and probably its use is restricted to arcane legal writings. I also don't like a "lil" rapper answer crossing the country of origin of a basketball player.sjoknoreply@blogger.com